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Taste & Beauty

Why do I keep arguing about a song if it's just taste?

9 episodes ↓ 34 sources ↓ AestheticsMetaphilosophy

The question

Your friend says the song is a masterpiece. You think it's manufactured, focus-grouped, empty. So you make a case — the lyrics are lazy, the hook is borrowed, it's three chords and a haircut. He makes a case back — you're missing the production, the restraint, what it does in the last thirty seconds. And it gets heated, the way these things do, until one of you finally says it: "Look, it's all subjective. There's no right answer. You like what you like."

And you both nod, relieved, like that settles it.

Except — if there's genuinely no right answer, what were the last twenty minutes? You didn't trade feelings. You traded reasons. You tried to show him something about the song, as if it were in the song, as if he'd missed it and could be brought to see it. Nobody argues that hard over whether they prefer salt or vinegar. So either the song thing isn't really like the salt thing — or you've been doing something strange and a little embarrassing for twenty minutes, and so has everyone you've ever argued taste with.

What you practise

You believe taste is personal, and that nobody is wrong about a song. You also believe some records are better than others, and that a friend who cannot hear it is missing something. Both sit in you at once. Here you hold them together instead of dropping one. You learn to catch the standard buried in words you use without thinking — overrated, acquired taste, no ear — and to ask what your verdict answers to beyond yourself. Five serious answers are live, and none is free. Pick one and you will know what you have bought, and know to ask the same question when the argument turns to right and wrong.

The episodes

Each episode builds on the one before, and the finale hands the question back to you sharper, not settled.

  1. 01

    The argument you won't drop

    An argument about a song ends with "it's all subjective anyway" — but the twenty minutes before that were spent trading reasons, as though the other person were wrong and could be shown. This first episode holds open the gap between what we say about taste and what we do with it, with no theories and no names yet attached.

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  2. 02

    Overrated relative to what?

    Overrated, underrated, a better critic, an acquired taste — ordinary words that each assume a standard the speaker's stated view says does not exist. The episode takes "overrated" apart and finds that one cannot lodge even a casual complaint about taste without relying on the very thing one claims is not there.

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  3. 03

    The true judges

    David Hume's essay Of the Standard of Taste (1757) grants that beauty is not a property of objects, then locates the standard in the joint verdict of the true judges — critics of wide experience, fine discrimination and no prejudice. The account is built at full strength, up to the objection it never fully answers — who counts as a true judge, and who decides.

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  4. 04

    The universal voice

    Immanuel Kant, in the Critique of the Power of Judgment (1790), describes what happens when one person calls a thing beautiful — a demand that everyone agree, made with what he calls a universal voice, and with nothing that could compel the agreement. The episode sets out why he took the unenforceable demand to be not a defect in the judgment but its nature.

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  5. 05

    Real the way colour is

    Perhaps beauty is real the way colour is real — a genuine property, there to be perceived, but only by the right kind of eye. The episode builds this account, associated with John McDowell and David Wiggins, and presses its cost — saying what makes an ear the right one without circling back to the very verdicts it was meant to ground.

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  6. 06

    Recruiting, not reporting

    Simon Blackburn's account holds that a judgment of taste was never a report of a fact but a recruitment — an attempt to bring another person into a way of hearing — and that every realist word, from "better" to "overrated", can be earned back with no fact underneath. Whether that vindicates the practice or quietly gives it away is left with the listener.

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  7. 07

    Whose eye is it?

    Pierre Bourdieu argued that taste is a reliable marker of social class — that the response which feels most spontaneous and most personal is predictable from schooling, upbringing and position. The episode builds his case until it stings, then presses the places where it may claim too much. Neither the reading nor the remainder is withdrawn.

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  8. 08

    Where the 'aesthetic' came from

    The idea of the aesthetic — a separate kind of value, registered by a disinterested eye that wants nothing from the thing — has a date of origin in the eighteenth century, with Shaftesbury among its makers. The episode watches a category that feels natural acquire a history, and refuses to let the date become either a debunking or a triviality.

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  9. 09

    Now do it on morality

    The five accounts — Hume's judges, Kant's demand, the colour-like property, Blackburn's recruitment, Bourdieu's class reading — are set side by side with their costs, and no winner is chosen. Then the same questions are turned on morality, where almost no one is a relativist, and the series ends by asking what makes goodness the exception.

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Thinkers

The thinkers and traditions this series draws on:

David HumeImmanuel KantJohn McDowellDavid WigginsSimon BlackburnPierre BourdieuThe Earl of ShaftesburyPaul Kristeller

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Your turn

A comedian sells out a big theatre. Two thousand people around you are crying with laughter. You don't laugh once. The jokes seem lazy to you: easy targets, the same rhythm every time, the punchline visible a mile off. Afterwards your friends say you just didn't get it. You don't say "not for me". You say the set was bad.

  1. What did "bad" mean? Does it rest on the verdict of people who know comedy, on a claim that everyone ought to laugh at what is really funny, on something funny in the jokes that some people catch and others miss, on trying to win your friends round, or on your background talking?
  2. On the answer you chose, who got it wrong: you, or two thousand people? If nobody did, what was "bad" doing in your sentence?
  3. Now say the biggest laugh of the night came from a joke about a disabled man in the front row, and it really was funny. Is "that was funny" the same kind of judgment as "that was cruel"? If you would hold one firmly and let the other go, say why.

A good answer settles on one meaning for "bad", pays what that meaning costs, and then says whether "funny" and "cruel" are judgments of the same kind, giving the reason for the split if you make one. Anything that ends the evening without doing all three has changed the subject.

Sources

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